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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:20:48 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[A few days ago, I gave a talk about WoW at the <a href="http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Home" >23rd Chaos Communications Congress</a>.<br /><br />A few mistakes I noticed.<br /><br />The first set of gear I show is Magister's not Arcanist. I refer to Darg as a "Foreman from Australia" which I don't think is accurate, but I couldn't think of something short at the time. The paper I refer to by John Seely Brown is co-authored by Douglas Thomas. And I'm sure there are various other mistakes.<br /><br />I've uploaded a <a href="http://dav.ito.com/23C3WoW.mov" >239M http://dav.ito.com/23C3WoW.mov</a> and a <a href="http://dav.ito.com/23C3WoW-M.mov" >94M http://dav.ito.com/23C3WoW-M.mov mp4</a> .mov file to my server. I'm on some weird Hotel ISP that is giving me trouble uploading to Google Video and Blip.tv. I'll try to get it up in a friendly format when I get home or something.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:21:49 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Oh, and I talked about Steve being chased by a lesbian.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:25:34 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Someone posted some notes from the talk.<br /><br />http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/009228.php#comments]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:32:18 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Batseba</author>
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			<![CDATA[Ah, was about to ask for transcript, but the notes are sufficient.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:37:06 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Notes from another person...<br /><br />http://blog.plugimi.com/?p=314]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:08:06 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Papers by Dmitri Williams.<br /><br />https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/dcwill/www/research.html<br /><br />I refer to some research in: Williams, D., N. Ducheneaut, L. Xiong, Y. Zhang, N. Yee &amp; E. Nickell (2006). From tree house to barracks: The social life of guilds in World of Warcraft. Games &amp; Culture, 1(4), p. 338-361.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:29:38 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Varo</author>
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			<![CDATA[Gack.  Both of those articles are behind a paywall.  I hate that.  >.&lt;<br /><br />Does anyone have scans of them?  Or at a university where they can download them?]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:34:00 -0600</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[I have a copy. I'll mail it to you Var since this thread is open.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:50:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[Thanks.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:59:37 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>emory</author>
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			<![CDATA[I've got the video in Processing Status on Google Video. <br /><br />I will post here when its live.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:45:24 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Seems to have gone through. Thanks for posting it emory.<br /><br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5160442894955175707]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:26:24 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>paineater</author>
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			<![CDATA[That undead priest in the last slide looks like a bad ass.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:27:27 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>emory</author>
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			<![CDATA[I've fixed the description (twice).  <br /><br />The second rev isn't live yet, but apparently GOOG doesn't allow html in the description.<br /><br />So I've removed the blockquotes and such and replaced with // and /* */ comments.<br /><br />The one live at this moment doesn't have the blockquote closed.  WTF NOOB.<br /><br />It was like 3am.  Whatcha want. <br /><br />Its fixed now and will right itself in a few shakes :)]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:42:36 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Valens</author>
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			<![CDATA[Haha, I caught that instance planning station I made on Kula in the video, that's awesome! I'm watching the Google Video version now. Great talk so far, and it makes me want to try harder for 60 :). I also watched Lessig's talk last night, which was amazing.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:52:38 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Sabocat</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: paineater</cite>That undead priest in the last slide looks like a bad ass.<span class="CommentSignature" >Where is the undead trainer?</span></blockquote><br /><br />Well I guess, Kinda.<br /><br />As with ALL WoW related stuff the Horde side was largely negected. Oh the trollality.<br /><br />I'm off to brig Tasmanian now...<br /><br />But despite all that it's a pretty 1337 presentation.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:28:03 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[Grotesque: Sorry about that. I was talking in a sort of first-person way and couldn't really speak about Horde side stuff very much because of lack of experience. Also, I had limited time so wasn't sure whether it was worth the effort to spend time explaining how the faction stuff worked as a trade-off of not explaining something else.]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:30:08 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>docadus</author>
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			<![CDATA[Actually, Joi, you said Steve got his butt kicked by a lesbian. <br /><br />;-)<br /><br />It was a great example of the friendships and community developed in the game, though. Good talk...]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:40:22 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Sabocat</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Jonkichi</cite>Grotesque: Sorry about that. I was talking in a sort of first-person way and couldn't really speak about Horde side stuff very much because of lack of experience. Also, I had limited time so wasn't sure whether it was worth the effort to spend time explaining how the faction stuff worked as a trade-off of not explaining something else.<span class="CommentSignature" >The Guild Custodian of We Know |<a href="http://weknow.to/guild/char.php?name=Jonkichi&server=Eitrigg" >Jonkichi</a>/<a href="http://weknow.to/guild/char.php?name=Inbajin&server=Eitrigg" >Inbajin</a></span></blockquote><br /><br />LOL I was just teasing you Joi.<br />Really I felt it was an awesome presentation. <br />I keep sitting on people for 43 mins at work and forcing them to watch it.<br />It's helping me convert those damn console gamers by showing them it can be so be so much more...]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:24:11 -0600</pubDate>
		<author>Dargue</author>
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			<![CDATA[very nice joi, and foreman pretty much sums up my position in my life at this point in time :) so there was no mistake on your behalf, except maybe with steve, adhd would have been more fitting :P]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:54:45 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>persimmon</author>
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			<![CDATA[holy thread bump...]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:10:54 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Trow/Nisus</author>
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			<![CDATA[Looks like we are having some more issues with Joi's account here - I deleted the spam posts...]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:20:05 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[a young horizontal And grapes, magnificent I noticed think even it's name turtles We need And grapes,]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:20:14 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:20:23 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:20:31 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[attempt. front yard and foxes I even http://in.news.yahoo.com become I grew http://family.yahoo.com height. my days beech log. become http://hotjobs.yahoo.com]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:20:42 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[and saw Years later, attempt. I know will never turtle, called]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:31:20 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Philippito</author>
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			<![CDATA[When good entrepreneurs go bad...<br /><br />Looks like Joi made one investment too many; in this rocky economy, all it takes is a few misplaced risks and next thing you know, you're spamming your own guild.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:22:09 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>chew</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote >    * Jonkichi<br />    * CommentTime1 day ago<br /><br /> quotepermalink<br />a young horizontal And grapes, magnificent I noticed think even it's name turtles We need And grapes,</blockquote><br /><br />never thought i'd see turtles and grapes in the same sentence]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:19:39 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>persimmon</author>
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			<![CDATA[is there a way to distinguish which accounts are doing this?  i know they are authenticated accounts, i'd just like to unauthenticate them lol]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:28:12 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:30:58 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Xora</author>
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			<![CDATA[These are magic links!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:25:02 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>yroa</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: Jonkichi</cite>By the way, I'm a girl-optimizer :)</blockquote>lol]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:35:37 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>docadus</author>
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			<![CDATA[That must be the all-time best Jonkichi quote... Can't you just hear Joi's voice on teamspeak: <br /><br />"By the way, I'm a girl-optimizer... <giggle >" <br /><br /><br />ROFL!</giggle>]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:21:07 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Philippito</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote >Thank you for your generocity!</blockquote>Spelling, spelling!]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:03:58 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Hobar</author>
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			<![CDATA[<blockquote ><cite >Posted By: persimmon</cite>is there a way to distinguish which accounts are doing this?  i know they are authenticated accounts, i'd just like to unauthenticate them lol</blockquote><br /><br />Actually, they are unauthenticated accounts...]]>
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		<title>WoW talk at 23C3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 14:22:07 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Jonkichi</author>
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			<![CDATA[&lt;a href=http://sarafem.zxq.net&gt;sarafem&lt;/a&gt;| [URL=http://sarafem.zxq.net]sarafem[/URL] Thanks! ;)<br />&lt;a href=http://sarafem.zxq.net&gt;sarafem&lt;/a&gt;| [URL=http://sarafem.zxq.net]sarafem[/URL] Thanks! ;)<br />&lt;a href=http://sarafem.zxq.net&gt;sarafem&lt;/a&gt;| [URL=http://sarafem.zxq.net]sarafem[/URL] Thanks! ;)<br />&lt;a href=http://sarafem.zxq.net&gt;sarafem&lt;/a&gt;| [URL=http://sarafem.zxq.net]sarafem[/URL] Thanks! ;)<br />&lt;a href=http://sarafem.zxq.net&gt;sarafem&lt;/a&gt;| [URL=http://sarafem.zxq.net]sarafem[/URL] Thanks! ;)]]>
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		<title>WoW talk at 23C3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:33:51 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Philippito</author>
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			<![CDATA[Anyone know where I could find some sarafem?]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:58:42 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>Haen</author>
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			<![CDATA[Up in hehphin.]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:55:13 -0500</pubDate>
		<author>persimmon</author>
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			<![CDATA[phil, i think you first need to find yourself a magic link...]]>
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